WAC To Announce Further Expansion Plans Next Month
Bumped to the front page.
UPDATE: from collegesportsinfo.com
Rob Spear was on KIDO yesterday and he said this about the recent meetings.
1 – The WAC 5 don’t want to add more SW schools (no to Lamar & Sam Houston State) unless there are Western/NW additions too. *not sure how true this is, if no fb schools in the West are willing to join I doubt they stay at 7 and risk having the conference torn apart by the SBC or MWC, who are the WAC 5 (Idaho, SJSU, Utah St, Denver and...?) I can't imagine NMSU or LA Tech would turn down extra games in Texas*
2 – There are more than 3 FCS schools in the SW that want to move up and that would jump at the opportunity. *FCS implies football members, my guesses are Lamar, SHSU, SFA, and UTA*
3 – The WAC has until the 2014 season to add more football schools, and is looking for Western members 1st. *true but misleading, they'd have 7 assuming LA Tech, NMSU, Utah St, and SJSU don't leave for the MWC or SBC either way they just are two defections away from no longer qualifying as a fb conference*
4 – Montana, Montana State, Portland State and Cal Poly have an open invitation to join the WAC until 2014. All of those schools are still in play. There were other schools that would fit ( those are the ones that were mentioned). Montana and MSU will be a package deal if/when they jump. *I'd assume UC-Davis and Sac St also have open invites*
According to my San Antonio, WAC commissioner Karl Benson will announce the next round of WAC expansion on June 14th...
Benson recently told a Louisiana radio station that four schools were ready to accept invitations. Though he said that "sounds about right," he wouldn't say if those were football-playing schools."
Theories are everywhere, but most believe football school Lamar (Southland), and non football schools Seattle (D1 Independent) and Utah Valley State (Great West) are virtual locks to join, but many are wondering who the 4th school would be. Here are a couple of options being thrown around on the net.
UT Arlington - longtime rival of UT San Antonio, currently has no football team but neither did UTSA 3 years ago. After UTSA announced their intentions to leave the Southland Conference, the university has been under more pressure to also make the move.
Sam Houston St- has had FBS aspirations for over a decade now but with the Houston area already saturated with Rice and UH, they may not have enough local support to meet the attendance requirement. This also directly affects the long time rivalry with fellow SLC member SFA, who as of last year had no plans to make the move to FBS.
McNeese St - yet another SLC school that had no immediate plans to move up, has been competitive in games with some lower tier FBS members, and would give LA Tech an in-state travel partner,
Arkansas Little Rock - long time Sun Belt member, however their status as the last non-football member may be forcing them to look for other options.
Cal St Bakersfield - currently a D1 independent but has Big West dreams, would give San Jose St an in-state member.
Houston Baptist and or UT Pan American - these Texas based Great West Conference schools could be in the mix for a WAC invite which would help reduce some of the travel for the Texas/Louisiana schools (A&M Corpus Christi in the SLC could be a long shot here as well)
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too bad the Montana
schools have no interest. They have good programs and immediately be in the top third from day one. I expect the announcement on June 14th may cause the MWC to reevaluate their expansion options.
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the window will be there till 2014...per Benson
gonna do an update above, this may allow them and the Big Sky schools enough time to reconsider…I have a feeling that as long as the WAC is around and not at 12 teams the Montana’s will always be able to join…
Thanks for the bump
Been reading that App St and Jacksonville St may be in the mix too…
The entire Big Sky has told the WAC that they aren’t interested including Montana, Montana St, Sacramento St, Portland St, UC Davis, and Cal Poly.
So basically the WAC is picking off teams from the Southland in TX/LA or the Great West scheduling conference which is all over the map plus the non football independents…
I don’t think the WAC’s expansion plans will affect the MWC unless they could grab Montana. The Big East’s expansion plans are the most important, and if the Sun Belt grabs LA Tech, then maybe the MWC will go after USU and SJSU again to kill the WAC. The most interesting thing to me would be if Montana joins the WAC, then the MWC may hold off and see how they do before they decide to expand. Montana and Utah St would be two good pick ups for the MWC in my opinion.
lamar. damn the wac will suck. if the entire big sky says no you know where you are in the pecking order. lol.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 9, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
no to you, you know where.........
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 9, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if the big sky is looking to jump as a conference, surely they would look better than the WAC
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by greekpadre on May 9, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is a bold move
and it would bring another western league.
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honestly with the exception of Southern Utah and Northern Colorado...
the entire league could move up with relatively minor upgrade costs, I could see a league in a few years with Montana, Montana St, Idaho, Idaho St, Eastern Washington, Portland St, Weber St, Sacramento St, UC-Davis, Cal Poly, Northern Arizona, New Mexico St.
At one point I think you told me that Northern Arizona was really poor/low budget, I think
I am misremembering that?
San Jose State could be another potential 12th team in that mix.
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by notsellingjeans on May 10, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You remember right, but they made a committment to maintain their sport programs...
if they could ever get enough political backing to gets priority funding like Arizona and Arizona St do they could easily adds the extra sports and scholarships to move up, they have a good stadium that can be upgraded and they have good enrollment but the funding is the biggest issue facing the school right now.
Basically the reason I said a few years is that I don’t see many schools in California and Arizona upgrading until the economic situation in the states get a little better. As with most things it’ll take a politician to get that ball rolling and I remember reading that a huge portion of AZ politicians (like over 60%) come from AZ and ASU so I doubt NAU could much support.
And yeah I agree both Utah St and San Jose St could both be in the mix if the MWC doesn’t take them, and remember NM St could join the Sun Belt as well…
NAU another domed field HOWEVER
NAU’s field: the Walkup Skydome

16,000+ (greater than Idaho’s Kibbie dome)
Plus badass lumberjack in front!

Vandals: The Kibbie Dome

JUST HIT 16,000 seats (as of 2010)
No awesome giant mascot
I think NAU wins this one as well
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by greekpadre on May 11, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
nau is in flagstaff right? the trees and mtns look beautiful.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
nau's skydome kinda looks like the tacoma dome.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
On the topic of stadiums,
Both UC-Davis and Cal Poly have phased stadium projects that are partially complete. Both schools currently have a capacity of 10-12K, but their full vision, long-term, provides the potential to build those stadiums out to 17K+.
That would cost several millions dollars obviously.
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by notsellingjeans on May 13, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If I could arrange the non MWC/CUSA midmajors...
I’d make the WAC the league I put above and then add a new Southlandwest conference with
UTSA & TXSt, UTA & UNT, SFA & SHSt, Lamar (& Rice), LA Tech & ULM, ULL (& Tulane)
(leaving 2 spots for Rice & Tulane when they’re eventually left behind for being too smart for CUSA.)
And then move the Sun Belt more east with Ark St, Western Kent, MTSU, Jacksonville St, Troy, SoBama, GA St, GA Southern, FIU, FAU, App St, and Richmond
i actually like that idea. EWU red football field would get as many complaints as boise blue turf.
i would love it.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 10, 2011 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
not to mention most big sky schools will have to make very minor adjustments to hit the required 15K stadiums
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