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The BCS: Where does the Mountain West stand?


Wow, a lot has happened since we figured out what our standing was in our quest for the BCS. Utah left for the Pac-10, Boise State joined us and now BYU has left the building. Now there has been a lot of confusion over just exactly was the case of the Mountain West getting their BCS Automatic Qualification. Let's start with where we were before Utah left for the Pac-10 and Boise State was added. Here is a fantastic table showing the exact location of each conference:

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So without Boise State and with Utah, we were 3rd in two of the prongs and 7th in the other. That made us eligible for an exemption and we would probably have it be granted with the location of the ACC in the qualification process. The ACC would not qualify for even exemption but they would still keep their AQ because of their Bowl Tie-In with the orange bowl. It would be impossible for Bill Hancock to say that a conference that does not qualify is a BCS Conference while a conference that qualifies is not one.

On to what happened after the expansionfest went on...

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By July 1, 2010, we knew that Boise State was taking the place of Utah... This was essentially a swap considering that Utah and BSU had almost identical values when it came to the BCS. So at that point, the Mountain West was still in a very good position to get a BCS AQ, contrary to what some have said in threads on this site. Many people have said that the reason BYU left was because once Utah left, there was no chance for a BCS AQ. The facts just prove that wrong.

Then the second round of expansion happened over the past few weeks and the result was BYU independence. According to our BCS expert over at BCS Evolution, the MWC was still in contention for the BCS AQ even after the Cougars left. We are still 5th in both of the categories that we were previously 3rd and 7th in the other category making us still available for the exemption. The ACC still hasn't changed its stance from where they were because they didn't lose or gain anyone. That means we are still in the driver's seat.

Now the question is whether or not the MWC can stay ahead of the ACC with BYU now also gone. Boise State and TCU are essentially TCU and Utah, so we really only lose BYU. The Cougars were to bring in some much needed value for the next two years that the rest of the league now must make up. I think it is very possible. Air Force is expected to have 9 or 10 wins this season and could easily finish the season as the third top 25 team in the conference.

As for the rest of the conference, both TCU and Boise State are expected to go to a BCS Bowl and Boise State could possibly go to the National Championship. They should both finish the season in the top 5. Wyoming could get 8 or 9 wins this season and finish around 40. San Diego State is going to be a bowl team again. UNLV has a new coach and looked what happened to Wyoming last season when they got a new coach. Colorado State has a promising future with Pete Thomas. And New Mexico is well... New Mexico.

The point is that the rest of the league should pick up the slack that BYU has left behind.

 

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Good post

I like that some people see past the trolls on how MWC is screwed, MWC still has a chance at AQ bid. The only thing I dont like atm is MWC hasnt made any moves yet to get to 12 teams. This makes me thing that MWC plan to be 8 teams 2011 and maybe 10 teams in 2012. This will make Nevada and Fresno very unhappy because we will have to be in the WAC for 2 years and that means 2 years of no TV revenue and no say in anything.

If MWC does help us to join in 2011 that means 2011 will be 10 teams and Air Force does not want 9 conference games because that will mean only 1 OOC game per year because of army and navy.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 1, 2010 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought they were

Until I saw the post from BCS Evolution that pointed out the MWC rankings hardly changed. Depending on when Fresno or Nevada can come in they could help the avg ranking. Air Force is the key if they can get in the top 25.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Sep 1, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya depends

if we can get out soon enough and if the MWC will help us get out. If they dont help us get out then no stats from Nevada and Fresno. Also AF does not want 9 conference games if we end up with 10 teams in 2011.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 1, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

It’s still possible to have a 10-team league with an 8-game schedule. I don’t personally like it, but it beats the alternative (pissing off Air Force).

by VA Libertarian on Sep 1, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

Ya I just read that post too. Nevada is on the verge of a breakout year and Fresno’s got 3 BCS school’s scheduled (Cincci, Ole Miss, and Illinois). If Fresno beats Cincci week one I predict the MWC will help both schools get in for 2011.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 1, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since the MWC is still in a viable position to get the AQ without Fresno State or Nevada

Then I think the MWC will not have them join until 2012. That gives them until the summer of 2011 to invite Houston and UTEP to go to 12 and not piss off Air Force…

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by rebelfan1 on Sep 2, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya I Agree

But Nevada’s President Milton Glick already stated that they will try everything to get in MWC for 2011 and if that happens Fresno will follow so they might have to do the 8 conference game schedule like VA Libertarian said to not to piss AF off.

And Rebelfan1 I’m touched. You actually called us Nevada.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 2, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

What did you think I would call you?

Nevada is what everyone calls them right?

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by rebelfan1 on Sep 2, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Most people in Vegas either calls us UNR or Nevada-Reno. Go to a Nevada UNLV game in Vegas and the score board says UNR all the time.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 2, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't been to one yet...

Hopefully I’ll be able to go this year’s.

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by rebelfan1 on Sep 2, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope you mean basketball lol

 Especially If Nevada upsets BYU the week before expect it to be like last years game or even worse.

by WolfpackNev on Sep 2, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it will be bad

But it’s always a great experience to a college game, especially against your rival. Even if that means getting whipped up on, it’s still a great experience.

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by rebelfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm

I just want to start out by saying, before BYU left I was really hopefull the MWC would still become an AQ-conference. I’m a BYU fan, and while I realized getting an auto BCS bid wasn’t a sure thing, I still thought we had a chance. I was really torn when I heard the news BYU wanted to be independent because I thought the MWC still had a chance. I realize it wasn’t a sure thing but it was still posible.

Now that BYU’s gone, I really doubt it. Even with BYU I think the odds were 50/50 at best. People need to realize the BCS doesn’t want to share the pie. And they don’t have to have 6 BCS-conferences. They could actually keep only 5. The more I think about it the more I realize this evaluation period is just a farce to make it look like they’re being fair. I would bet a months salary the MWC won’t get an auto bid any time soon.

Don't trust this guy. He lies.

by urnext on Sep 1, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd be careful betting that salary

There have been rumors about the Cotton Bowl being added to the BCS line-up, which would open up two more BCS slots. It’s not unreasonable to imagine the Mountain West would have a shot at AQ status in that scenario.

If it stays with the current 5-game set-up, however, I’m pretty much in agreement with you, unfortunately.

by VA Libertarian on Sep 1, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that the BCS does want to share the pie.

But if things stay they way they are, it would be impossible for them to say that the ACC gets an AQ while the Mountain West does not. If they do say that then this will go to court and will probably be ruled in favor of the MWC because of how ludicrous it sounds.

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by rebelfan1 on Sep 2, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  


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