BYU Is Now On The Clock To Decide Their Future
BYU's grand plan to go independent has fallen on hard times as the WAC is falling apart
"We're trying to put ourselves in position to be the best we can, which is exposure across the country, letting our kids shine in the bright lights," Holmoe said, according to the Deseret News.
BYU is unhappy with the limited reach of the Mountain West's TV partners - Versus, CBS College Sports and The Mtn. - and the restrictions on local broadcasts. The school also likely could make more money by striking its own TV deal.
According to reports, ESPN has offered $4 million to televise four BYU home football games. That is a good chunk of change and I would assume that BYU could maybe make another million on BYU-TV for their other games, but this was with the WAC heavy schedule. That amount seems a lot for ESPN to shell out what would most likely be two WAC opponents and the other two games would probably be one top BCS team like Texas, every other year they play Utah at home, and then in the off years with Utah maybe BYU would play Notre Dame or a Pac-12 school.
The mind boggling thing is that the payoff is more of a reality then it has been since the televisions deal came into place in for the 2006 football season. CBS
However, If BYU does go independent at least one Mountain West team will hold a grudge and that is San Diego State's Brady Hoke:
"Who's going to play BYU now?" Hoke said. "I don't know if we'll play 'em. They're not Notre Dame. I don't think they gain a thing [by going independent]. I think they're making a mistake."
Well, coach, there is one team that just agreed to play them a couple of times: little outfit down in the southwest, known as Texas.
That last comment was from Salt Lake Tribune's Jay Drew who covers BYU, and well that deal with Texas is a two for one series which is the same thing Wyoming received as well. Until BYU can consistently get big time programs who usually do not ravel out of their area and come to BYU like SEC teams and in late October and November then I will buy BYU as a force in the independent world if it comes to that.
So, where does BYU go now? They can still stay with the WAC and hope they add two more football playing members next summer, but the WAC may need three teams if Louisiana Tech leaves for a more travel friendly league like the C-USA or even the Sun Belt if shifting goes on there. This would be a tough sell for the minor sports who would have one good year in the WAC and then may have to move again to a different league all for the well being of the football team. Plus, scheduling would be an issue if the WAC stays in place, because in a seven team basketball league would have only 12 conference games which is one the low end and would require 18 or so more games to fill out there schedule.
The hoops could schedule against the basketball only independents during January when most schools are in conference play, but those schools typically are not any good and would be an RPI killer. Joining the West Coast Conference was discussed and is not going to happen, so what is left? There is the Big West but they are a step below the West Coast and not is an attractive option.
BYU could stay independent in football and keep their non-football sports in the Mountain West, but that may seem like a tough sell and again would the Mountain West football teams want to play BYU in football. Scheduling six or so games as the arrangement was with the WAC is one thing but getting seven to eight games in the near future and then eleven games scheduled (after the Utah game) will be much more difficult. Plus, there is still the lingering issue of not having any type of auto-bid toward the BCS.
Then there is what the compromise will end up being is that BYU will stay in the Mountain West as a full fledge member and Craig Thompson will make some concessions to satisfy BYU. This could include letting them have rights to one or two football games on BYU-TV, and do not be fooled those will not be marquee games. Perhaps, Comcast could come to the plate and provide a wider distribution of the Mtn. channel on their own networks since they do own the channel. Comcast has coverage in most of Texas and all along the east coast, so getting the channel on at least a mid level tier there would be a step up and if The Mtn. was an option on a non-sports pack tier that could make distribution sky rocket to 24 million cable subscribers.
My final thought is still that BYU will come back as a full fledge member of the Mountain West and then they will add Houston with to get to twelve teams.
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Incorrect facts
Actually its not the same deal Texas has with wyoming. Be credible and research your facts. BYU is doing a HOme and Home Series with texas staing in 2013, BYU has a seperate deal to play Texas down there in 2011. check your facts. http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/dallas/colleges/post/_/id/4669457/report-byu-texas-close-to-3-year-deal
That entirety of the deal equals a two for one
which is the same thing Wyoming got. You’re trying to be a stickler for semantics, but both things are exactly the same.
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by David Piper on Aug 22, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
how about this fact
This is the title from Jay Drew: BYU-Texas finalize plans for three-game football series
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting opponents in September won't be the problem.
Signing a two-for-one deal with Texas doesn’t prove that BYU is capable of getting quality opponents in November. Non-BCS programs have always been able to get deals with BCS programs in September. BYU’s November schedule could end up looking very ugly.
Does Jay Drew understand that or is he just being flippant to please his readers?
jay drew
Ive been noticing that lately from him.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 12:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I really think Houston is staying in C-USA
Think about it, the two conferences met Thursday, discussed scheduling agreements and even admitted the possibility of a merged championship game. Then, the two conferences released simultaneous press releases showing a good relationship and a willingness to present some sort of joint pitch to the BCS.
Then, you’re saying, the MWC is going to turn around and raid C-USA? Doesn’t make sense. If the MWC was going to raid C-USA, they would have clearly done so before going to Utah State.
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i think so
They were partof a league with most of the current mwc but UNLV was chosen over them when the mwc was formed.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 1:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think UTEP
would be the best choice out there of all the names thrown out so far.
However, I think the working meeting/agreement would preclude any poaching of either conference from the other.
Unless of course one team is offered as a sacrifice to appease the raiding tribes. UTEP is a little be of a western outlier for C-USA but fits neatly in the MWC foot print. C-USA could easily add La. Tech or Temple to stay at 12 schools if they needed to, where the MWC would only be able to look at the other WAC refuse.
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La Tech has more power than ever
Because if they leave, the WAC dies, falls under 6 teams, and it helps kill any presence the WAC has anywhere near Texas.
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that was my original thought
It seems less likely now but nothing will surprise me, and Utah state does nothing.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 12:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Utah State only makes sense as a replacement for BYU
to keep a foothold in Utah
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and games against Utah and BYU
Every other year on the Mtn.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand everything about the C-USA meetings
But that was probably to discuss it as a backup plan for the MWC if BYU does leave. As long as BYU stays, I think this deal is off. Just would make too little sense to join a lesser conference that hasn’t gone to the BCS once while the MWC has gone three times.
As far as going for Utah State over Houston makes sense in my mind. The whole point in adding Utah State is to keep all the TV infrastructure in Utah. Most of the TV Revenue the MWC makes comes from Utah because the two major colleges in that state used to be in the conference. If we lose both, then our TV money dips significantly, adding Utah State would keep all the infrastructure and would make the damage minimal instead of catastrophic.
That is the whole reason why they went to Utah State first, the best Utah school not named Utah or BYU out there and that helps in their plan to keep BYU in the MWC by making the WAC go extinct. Personally, I would have gone to Fresno St. and Nevada first to see if BYU was really going to jump ship before extending the offer to Utah St.
But at this point, the MWC is in a postion to decide what happens as far as a C-USA/MWC Merger or if they just add Houston and go the regular route to get the BCS AQ. Although I think this all comes down to BYU. If BYU stays, then there is absolutely no incentive for this MWC/C-USA Merger as a BCS AQ would pretty much be locked up – especially with TCU and BSU both probably going to finish high in the rankings. If BYU goes, then the only way for the MWC to get the BCS AQ is through C-USA.
The good news is that the deadline to find out what they are going to do is coming soon, BYU has to decide to leave the conference by September 1st. If they don’t leave by then, then the MWC invites Houston and gets their BCS AQ. It won’t matter if BYU leaves after that because their stats will still count towards the MWC. Houston won’t help, but we are on track to get the BCS Bid anyway and once we get our bid, we have at least 5 years before it is stripped of us again – the next evaluation period is in 2014-2017.
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UNLV is going all the way this year!
Houston
Agree if BYU leaves they should do the deal with C-USA. If Houston is added it wont be till 2012 so their stats will stay in C-USA. They would still be a good pick up but their stats would not count.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I was under the impression
from the BCS head that said that a conference will never be stripped of it’s BCS once it had obtained it, unless in the obvious case of a conference folding a la Big 12(10). What they will do is make the MWC the 7th AQ conference. That’s why the Big East and ACC don’t give a crap about what anyone thinks of them being inferior to the MWC. So it stands to reason that if/when we actually obtain said AQ bid, we in theory shouldn’t lose it. But then again the BCS really hates us, so I wouldn’t doubt they’d change the rules as soon as they could to make AQ bids up for grabs every few years.
there is a criteria
and teams could lose if they fall below that criteria, however the Big East was granted a petition the last time.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 23, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't that what the PAC 10 and Big 12 said after meetings this fall?
Did a joint TV deal end up coming out of that, or did one conference then try to raid the other violently?
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not saying it will get done
but not a bad idea
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is the WCC out of the picture?
That would be a Great fit for BYU in terms of school identity (a bunch of Private Religious Schools) and they would get to use those Gonzaga, St. Mary’s and Pepperdine games for fodder. Almost all the schools have baseball, and the other sports that are high on the radar (the WCC is one of the most respected conferences for a TON of the non-revenue sports). The WCC would be the best fit considering the WAC is gone!
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not sure
BYU is not returning their calls. I think it comes down to forming a football partnership and none of them play football. I also think the WCC does not have enough sports to cover what BYU has.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 22, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget travel
I know it’s trendy in realignment conversations to say that travel doesn’t matter, but the WCC is a LONG way away from BYU. I think this was a flaw in the original plan. The non-revenue sports will have to fly to a lot more campuses than they’ve been used to. The addition of Boise would even make that part even better. BYU-TV better be a cash cow.
true
but for hoops and minor sports their schools are fairly close like Pepperdine and San Diego.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions

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