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BYU Preseason Chatter - I find your lack of faith disturbing

The votes are in.  BYU has been selected to finish 3rd in the conference by the media.  This wouldn't be much to talk about, but looking at the number of points each team received reveals a certain lack of faith among the media in BYU's ability to secure a top 3 finish in the conference.  TCU was a great team last year, and with so many starters returning they figure to be a great team this year.  The media doled out 279 points to TCU to secure the #1 position.  Utah got 242, and BYU ended with 207.  This Mountain West Trifecta is expected, as the rest of the conference is considered a step down.  But only 12 points behind BYU is Air Force, and that is something to talk about.

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Air Force is a great program that consistently puts together winning seasons.  Last season the Falcons ended on a high note, completely dismantling a very good Houston team.  They have quite a few great players coming back this year, including Preseason All-Conference selections Jared Tew (RB), Reggie Rembert (CB) and Anthony Wright (CB).  However, one huge hole they will have to fill is their offensive line.  Every 2009 starter on the offensive line, including the starting tight end, will need to be replaced.  For a run-oriented team like Air Force, that can be devastating.  Luckily, Troy Calhoun is a good coach and knows exactly what his line means to his offense.  This year's starters have gotten a decent amount of game-time experience and should be adequate, but look for a bit of a decline in the quality of Air Force's offense this year.

BYU, on the other hand, has most every starter on offense back from last year's 11-2 season.  The most obvious and impactful newbie will be manning the quarterback position, whether that be elite high school prospect Jake Heaps or dual-threat Riley Nelson.  Whichever quarterback takes the reins, BYU's offense should be stellar with a stable of quality running backs, sure-handed receivers and experienced linemen.  BYU's defense is probably what concerns the media most.  Up front, BYU will have to replace every lineman and 3 of it's 4 linebackers.  Bronco Mendenhall isn't a dummy, either, and this year's new starters have been prepared with a decent amount of game-time experience garnered last season.  BYU's defense won't be quite up to last year's quality, but it shouldn't be a doormat, either.

So if BYU's offense and Air Force's defense are expected to be good, and BYU's defence and Air Force's offense are supposedly their weak points, why does the media think this year will be the year Air Force challenges one of the conference's elite for a place in the top 3?  From what it sounds like, the simple fact that the game is in Colorado Springs will give Air Force it's chance.  From looking at the history between these two teams, home field advantage doesn't seem to be a factor.  BYU has won the past 6, with Air Force's last win coming in Provo in 2003.  Couple that with the fact that BYU runs a fast-paced offense while Air Force is more run-oriented, I'd definitely give the edge to BYU.  But I guess the media sees differently.

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BYU has the fewest number of returning starts of any MWC contender.

Outside of UNM, BYU has the fewest number of total returning starts in the MWC. Here’s the list:

1. UNLV:
Offense: 154
Defense: 180
TOTAL: 334

2. SDSU:
Offense: 183
Defense: 140
TOTAL: 323

3. TCU:
Offense: 185
Defense: 117
TOTAL: 302

4. Wyoming:
Offense: 131
Defense: 144
TOTAL: 275

5. Utah:
Offense: 144
Defense: 78
TOTAL: 222

5. CSU:
Offense: 90
Defense: 128
TOTAL: 218

6. AF:
Offense: 84 (all skill players, no line)
Defense: 132
TOTAL: 216

BYU:
Offense: 105 (almost all line, plus Jacobson)
Defense: 70
TOTAL: 175

UNM:
Offense: 104
Defense: 61
TOTAL: 165

Now, returning starts aren’t all equal (nobody would change teams with UNLV and SDSU except maybe UNM), but experience helps, even if the talent level is not as high. BYU is 40 starts behind Air Force, 50 behind Utah, and 130 behind TCU.

Now, that doesn’t mean BYU is doomed, but this is the least experienced BYU team in a long time. The MWC breaks into three sections based on experience:

Very experienced:
UNLV
SDSU
TCU

Pretty experienced:
Wyoming
Utah
CSU
AF

Inexperienced:
BYU
UNM

Then there’s talent. Based on the last three years results:

Talented:
TCU
Utah
BYU

Average:
AF
CSU
UW

Lacking:
SDSU
UNLV
UNM

We’ll see what happens, but let’s say you give 1 point for each bottom category, 2 for each middle, and 3 for the top, then you’d have the following rankings:

1- TCU (6 pts)
2- Utah (5 pts)
3- BYU (4 pts)
3- AF (4 pts)
3- UNLV (4 pts)
3- SDSU (4 pts)
3- UW (4 pts)
3- CSU (3 pts)
9- UNM (2 pts)

So, based on experience (UNLV, SDSU), talent (BYU), or a combo of both (CSU, AF, UW), any of the teams not named UNM could rise up and challenge for that 3/4 spots. Now, it’s tough to say who is the most talented (regardless of experience) in the middle because UW/CSU have some recent success but have also choked some years. UNLV/SDSU are both at least a decade of futility, but UW/CSU/UNM are tough (although UNM is inexperienced and untalented based on last year)

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by displacedute on Jul 28, 2010 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Offense

BYU has a good if not great offensive line and their top WR’s back, but they lost their top two of their top 3 pass catchers in George and Pitta, Max Hall, and Harvey Unga. So, for them to be close to Air Force sounds about right. I would not be surprised if AFA does finish third, but to count out BYU is a mistake.

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by Jeremy Mauss on Jul 28, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Historically

3rd in the MWC is not a bad place to start the season.

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by utesfan100 on Jul 28, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Offense isn't going to be what it was last year

Unga and Hall just were too good and definitely won’t be replaced by this season, Unga was the leading rusher in the NCAA and Hall was a dominant figure at BYU. Whoever takes Hall’s old spot won’t be as good at the position this year and no one will even come close to replacing Unga for at least the next few years. Now don’t get me wrong, BYU’s offense still will be pretty good with a pretty good WR Core and an amazing Offensive Line. It just won’t be what it was last season.

The Defense is going to be less than it was last year and I think that is why the media is so low on BYU.

Now, the reason I think Air Force is so close to BYU is because of scheduling. BYU has a much tougher non-conference schedule than Air Force. So the reason it is so close is not because of a lack of talent at BYU or an influx of talent at Air Force, it is just simply BYU is losing some stars while Air Force is returning all of its skill players. I know skill players aren’t everything, but the media normally judges teams on their skill players, not their offensive line. The other thing that puts this so close was scheduling, in which BYU has a tougher non-conference schedule than Air Force.

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by rebelfan1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

3rd is a Good Place to Start

Displacedute, interesting numbers. Is there a site you got that info from? I would agree that this year’s BYU team is the least experienced in a long time. Bronco likened it to the 2007 season, which is pretty accurate. That year, BYU lost their starting quarterback, 2 great tight ends, leading rusher, and some stalwarts in the front seven. They went on to win the conference. Will BYU win the conference this year? I don’t think so, but when they’ve been in this situation before, it has turned out well.

I just think it is interesting that a number of media personnel put Air Force ahead of BYU when they have only slightly more experience and have something as vital as the entire offensive line to replace. Precision blocking is essential to Air Force’s offense, and without significant experience and time to gel as a unit, I won’t expect them to be able to light up the scoreboard.

If Air Force had some line experience coming back, this would be a completely different conversation. Their skill players are quality, and their defense looks like it will be pretty solid. With an experienced O-line, I would probably pick them over BYU, whose front 7 are unproven. But as it stands, given Air Force’s offense, I’m going to have to give the nod to BYU.

Scheduling is something I hadn’t considered, Rebelfan1, and that may have something to do with how the media voted. BYU will definitely need to focus on week 1 with a much-improved Washington team coming to Provo. Heading out to Tallahassee week 3 almost makes Air Force a trap game for BYU. But don’t forget, Air Force will have Oklahoma week 3, so they’ll have a reason to look ahead as well. Also, Air Force starts out against 1-AA Northwestern State. After week 1, BYU will have a much better idea of what it needs to work on than Air Force will, but I can still see how some people would look at those schedules and think Air Force could end up on top.

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by mbennett427 on Jul 29, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I got them from the MWCboard.com post about returning starters.

I have not verified their accuracy (except for the Utah numbers, which I checked when I was on mwcboard.com more often). That said, most of the numbers have been verified by the mwcboard members. Everyone checks their own team and points out inaccuracies.

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by displacedute on Jul 29, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice resource

I wasn’t questioning the numbers at all, I just wanted to know where they came from. I don’t want to be spouting off opinions without having all the information. :)

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by mbennett427 on Jul 29, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a great resource and it's a ton of work for the poster who does it.

I love it. Every year he puts it together and it makes for a great source of information when trying to predict games and seasons in the future. I did the summaries, but the data is based on that post.

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by displacedute on Jul 30, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

you forgot the most important player coming back. the qb tim jefferson and he is healthy and his mind is in the right place

air force 28 byu 24.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 1 month till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 1, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  


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