New Pac-10 League Looking To Receive Two BCS Auto Bids
by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 9, 2010 9:43 PM PDT
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PrintNow, this is something new that I have not heard. The main point of this article is to say that Colorado all ready has an invitation to join the Pac 10, but it is this quote that could be a game changer:
A coach said it's possible the Pac-16 would push for two automatic bids to the BCS, one for each division champion. That potential bonanza could open the possibility of the two division champs from one league playing for the national title, and it would eliminate the need for a conference championship game.
"The Pac-10 doesn't believe in a championship game," the coach said. "And coaches in the Big 12 don't like it anyway."
So, if the Pac-10 goes to two division with eight teams each with no title game doesn't that make it two separate conferences? Who knows if that is even accurate or just a pipe dream, but if this topic is even remotely true the SEC would be all over the same type of move and add four teams.
The super-tiny problem with that is that the BCS would have to change their entire qualification process to include divisional champions as automatic qualifiers with leagues of sixteen teams. Here is the thing why go to all of the trouble to add 16 teams for the money that may or may not be there and not have a title game that would generate a good amount of money.
This move also would not surprise me because the BCS teams want to keep the money all to themselves, so why not try to keep the money within like types. Something that is very obvious to me is that a Pac-16 would almost certainly send two teams to the BCS each year just like the SEC does, so there really is no need for a format that allows two divisional winners from the same conference to receiver an automatic bid.
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I just heard about that...
seems super unlikely, at least under the current power circle.
Once Emmert takes over, he would have the clout to make things like this happen.
the entire BCS
Qualification would have to be redone.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 9, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just saying that with a Pac-10 purist at the helm of the NCAA
it becomes a whole lot more possible.
The current head of the BCS
is an Oklahoma grad
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He's an interim guy though
Myles Brand was actually president of Oregon (with a stop at Indiana) before he took over. Emmert is a UW grad and a lifelong Seattle and Pac-8/10 guy. I’m not saying he’s going to hand the Pac-whatever everything they want…merely that he’s far more apt to listen then some schmuck from (insert any city east of Denver here).
This seems foolish, as often the best teams in a conference are in the same division. See Georgia/Florida a few years ago, Texas/Oklahoma, Georgia Tech/Virginia Tech. Think 2004 and 2005 Colorado getting flattened by 0U/ Texas and then rolling on into the Orange Bowl after that at 7-6. Is it inconceivable that their first year in the Pac-16 that a 9-3 Oregon team squares off against a 12-0 Texas (who had beaten 10-2 Oklahoma earlier in the season), and Oregon gets thumped but pops off to the Rose bowl while 0U heads to the Cotton? Unless they rewrite the rules for number of teams per conference allowed in the BCS, this rule will be a sore point for whatever division in the superconferences comes out ahead.
Think 11-1 Michigan would’ve been okay with the Capital One bowl just because they lost to 12-0 Ohio State in 2006? They’ll be in the same division in the Big Integer, and it will happen.
Saw this one coming.
If the SEC, Big Ten and Pac-10 all expand to sixteen, one can assume that the Big XII and Big East are in trouble. So if the Big East and Big XII disappear the BCS situation looks like this:
Rose: Pac-16 #1 vs. Big Ten #1
Fiesta: ? vs. ?
Sugar: SEC #1 vs. ?
Orange: BIGACCEAST #1 vs. ?
And in two teams going to the NCG and that leaves six at-large slots. Six is too many. Why have six when you can have almost none?
Rose: Pac-8 #1 vs. Big Ten #1
Fiesta: Big VIII #1 vs. at-large
Sugar: SEC #1 vs. Big Ten #2
Orange: BIGACCEAST #1 vs. SEC #2
The remnants of the Big East/ACC could, in theory, get two, but I doubt it. The Super MWC could get the Fiesta Bowl slot, which might happen. This still leaves two slots for at-large births based on who gets selected for the NCG.
OR
if each of the 4 × 16 conferences, have 8 teams per side, and have a conference championship game (which this article is saying WON’T be happening) you get the first round of an eight game playoff at the conference championship level.
The winners of each conference champ game, (4 teams) goes on to play in the bowls, with the winner…going to a Plus One type Championship game
Playoff
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I have heard that
and the BCS or whatever is in charge will see they have an 8 team playoff thus leaving any other league out. That would be heavily contested if the current 120 are still in the same division.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 10, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Speculation is the theme of the week.
I see the super MWC getting the Fiesta Bowl and the BCS rules being adjusted to be the top 5 conferneces, which will include the MWC with the demise of the Big 12 and the boost the MWC will get in the process with the Big 12 remnant and Bosie St.
The at large provisions would still exist for the WAC and C-USA, but would be far less likely to come into play. It would become expected that more than two teams per conference would be needed to fill the BCS slots, and this would be placed just before the current rules allow for the field to be extended to the top 18 then top 22.
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make sense
That is what my post will be about. The bowl scenario and additional teams. There is an NCAA rule that requires any new league to have at least 6 members to be in the same league for 5 years to receive an auto bid in any sport. Which means no way the Big XII will stay together if there are no auto bids to be had for 5 years. So, the theory about the last 5 trying to form a new league or keep the Big XII name will be tough unless they get 6 schools from say the MWC, Boise, and the Big XII left overs to keep an auto bid.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 10, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see why
the MWC schools would even go there other than the for sure possibility of getting that Auto-bid. With us on track for the BCS bid, with Boise St. and a good Big 12 leftover such as Missouri plus Houston from C-USA, we would be a lock for the auto-bid. And if they want that auto-bid, they’re going to have to conform to the unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12. Not to mention, with the TV Deals up after 2011, I’m pretty sure in the new Big 12, the TV money would drop significantly. If they’re in the MWC, then the TV Deal goes up, viewers for The Mtn. go up, and you still have that BCS Auto-Bid. I just don’t see the Big 12 forming another league.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
i'm just glad that usc is getting what they deserve.
it took bama i think 17 or 18 years to get another ncaa title(after the ncaa came down on them). let it take more time for usc (to get another title)after all the penalties they are going to get. lol.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
A Big 12... er 4 ... MWC merger makes the most sense to me still.
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yup
Just put up a new post on that.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 10, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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