Mountain West in 2012
In 2011 Utah will join the Pac-12 with Colorado. In 2012, Brigham Young & Boise State could join the Big XII North because they want to expand the footprint instead of adding more Texas schools. Also in 2012, Texas Christian & Houston could join the Big East (the only BCS conference without 12 schools) with Central Florida & Memphis. Big East forms South division of South Florida, Central Florida, Houston, TX, Texas Christian, Memphis, TN & Louisville, KY.
This scenario makes ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac-12 & SEC have 12 schools (72 total + Notre Dame) in the BCS. The winners are the 6 teams joining Utah in the BCS & the losers are the non-BCS conferences - Mountain West, C-USA & WAC.
I propose the solution to this conference realignment is recreating the 16-team WAC from 1996 to 1998. The teams are the same except Nevada, Utah State & Idaho replace Utah, BYU & TCU.
Split the 16 school league into a Mountain division comprised of 3 Texas, 2 Colorado, 1 Oklahoma, 1 Wyoming & 1 New Mexico school and the West division is 3 California, 2 Nevada, 1 Hawaii, 1 Utah &1 Idaho school. Every state in the West with a viable school is represented. The losers are New Mexico State & Lousiness Tech - 2 WAC schools that will have to join the C-USA/Sunbelt merger. Besides them, every WAC school in its' history is either in a BCS conference or in the new WAC-16.
This graph shows the division split with year originally joined WAC, where the school is, rank last season in football, conference they're coming from, # of undergrads & size of football stadium.
| Western Athletic Conference 2012 |
Joined | Average Rank Last Year | #81 | Ex-Conf | Undergrad | Stadium | |
| Mountain | Air Force Falcons | 1980 | Colorado Springs, CO | #45 | MWC | 5k | 53k |
| Colorado State Rams | 1967 | Fort Collins, CO | #104 | MWC | 26k | 34k | |
| New Mexico Lobos | charter | Albuquerque, NM | #118 | MWC | 24k | 40k | |
| Rice Owls | 1996 | Houston, TX | #113 | C-USA | 3k (p) | 47k | |
| Southern Methodist Mustangs | 1996 | Dallas, TX | #49 | C-USA | 6k (p) | 32k | |
| Texas-El Paso Miners | 1967 | El Paso, TX | #102 | C-USA | 17k | 52k | |
| Tulsa Golden Hurricane | 1996 | Tulsa, OK | #81 | C-USA | 3k | 30k | |
| Wyoming Cowboys | charter | Laramie, WY | #59 | MWC | 13k | 31k | |
| West | Fresno State Bulldogs | 1992 | Fresno, CA | #51 | WAC | 23k | 41k |
| Hawaii Warriors | 1979 | Honolulu, HI | #75 | WAC | 20k | 50k | |
| Idaho Vandals | 2005 | Moscow, ID | #50 | WAC | 12k | 16k |
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| Nevada Wolf Pack | 2000 | Reno, NV | #52 | WAC | 17k | 30k | |
| Nevada-Las Vegas Rebels | 1996 | Las Vegas, NV | #86 | MWC | 31k | 37k | |
| San Diego State Aztecs | 1978 | San Diego, CA | #97 | MWC | 35k | 71k | |
| San Jose State Spartans | 1996 | San Jose, CA | #111 | WAC | 33k | 31k | |
| Utah State Aggies | 2005 | Salt Lake City, UT | #101 | WAC | 24k | 26k |
Travel isn't too costly despite the conference reaching from Eastern Oklahoma to Hawaii. Wyoming would play their 7 division opponents & play 2 games against the West division - 1 home/1 away. In 4 years Wyoming would play all 8 teams in the West with only 1 road trip. 9 conference games should make scheduling easier with enough room for out of conference rivalry games & shots at BCS teams.
the WAC - Mountain vs West Conference Championship Game could be played in San Diego Chargers stadium and/or alternate with Jerry Dome in Dallas.
In basketball Wyoming would play the 15 teams once each & their designated rival (Colorado State or New Mexico) twice for 16 games.
I think a well-structured league like this would do a lot for each of these schools to build their athletic programs with intense rivalries, revenue to improve their facilities & exposure with the Mountain West Network showing a lot of their football/basketball/baseball games. The Mountain West commissioner would be the obvious choice to run this league. Keeping the divisions named Mountain & West is a nod to the effective split from the WAC that worked so well for 12 years.
Anyone agree? Or have better ideas on what the Mountain West should do if BYU, TCU & Boise State join Utah to fill out other BCS conferences empty spots? Big XII has 2 & Big East has 4.
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First of all,
The WAC is likely to add Montana and maybe even go to 12 teams with currently strong west coast FCS teams.
Second, this year’s expansions are done, but I get the feeling their might be more on the horizon next year. The Big 10 still has a move to make and the east coast conferneces will need to repsond.
I could see TCU in C-USA before the Big East. The Big East might be dead, especially if the SEC is promted to move.
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They need Montana State
To join because of politics and Montana State does not want to go.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 22, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It is funny but true.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 27, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
did you see that big east commish wrote a very nice note to dan beebe of the big 12
congratulating him on keeping texas and the rest of their teams. i guess if those five teams did goto the pac-ten the big ten would respond by raiding the big east. kinda funny. your job is safe for at least another year. lol.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Craig Thompson just might end up being a savvy guy if he gets the MWC to 12 teams. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c he is a far superior wrestler and a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. Last man to win a round vs Gsp. 2.9/1 odds on that too. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 22, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I did, it was great.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 22, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm hearing rumblings about BYU/Arkansas to Big12 being back on the table
It’s not likely that Arkansas leaves the SEC but not entirely unlikely. If Arkansas says no then I’m hearing BYU/TCU. Yes TCU saturates Texas but I’m sure some Texas government big wig will make it happen for TCU.
Could even happen by the end of the summer….
Dont see it happening
Dan Bebee keeps saying they will not expand, for now. Which means they will most likely not expand this summer but I can easily see them expanding within 3 – 5 years.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 22, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not puting my money on it
But the sources seem pretty reliable… coming from the same guy who broke Utah/CU to the Pac10. Bebee will say what he wants but ultimately the BCS will say that you have to have a championship game. They just don’t want this to be headlining news for the next couple months like what we just went thru. They’ll do all they can to squash the rumors but they’re definitely talking.
by vaughnzipper on Jun 23, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
First, no way does the Big 12(now 10) pick up BSU – they only add football power, and don’t have a very high tv market to capture revenue. Plus, the travel would be absolutely atrocious.
Second, expansion of the Big12(10) would not happen for a few years. I believe it will take UT or OU being left out of the Nat. Champ. discussion (possibly a second BCS birth) for the impetus to be there. Right now they are making more money with less conference membership, and the other big power of the conference (Nebraska) is gone, so Texas truly runs the show there.
Third, the Big East will die before they expand. They already have a ton of basketball schools, so expansion would screw up the dynamics of their other sports.
And finally, I have a hard time believing BYU is a ‘juicy’ prospect for Big12(10) expansion. The travel would be worse than CU, the no-sunday play would still be a big deal, and BYU would need to bring in more ‘umph’ than the attractive possibility of adding two more Texas schools to TRULY solidify the power of the conference in Texas (don’t smirk, the TX legislature can do some crazy things at times).
by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 28, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
On a second look ...
Even ignoring the issues addressed above, I don’t think the 4 C-USA schools would move over. This would also make the WAC a 12 team conference like everyone else.
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