The Latest Expansion Rumors: Texas Will Put An End To Expansion
by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 14, 2010 10:20 AM PDT
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So, here are the details as of now, which of course will be outdated by the time you finish reading this post.
-- Texas is still looking like they are at least trying to keep a modified Big XII together:
In a bombshell development that could bring a halt to seismic changes in college realignment, sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas is willing to come to the table with the 10 remaining Big 12 schools to see if there's consensus for a plan put forth by commissioner Dan Beebe to hold the conference together.
The main sticking point looks to be the option for Texas to create their own television network. This is something the Pac-10 would not allow with their television deal. The Pac-10 would control all content similar to how the Mountain West television deal works; which means those local coaches shows would air on the conference television channel, and the money would be handed out equally.
-- $20-$25 million could be what Texas gets with new Big XII television deal deal and Longhorn network:
Texas stands to make between $20 mil and $25 mil per yr under a proposed new TV pkg presented by Dan Beebe, plus UT's own network.
All 10 schools remaining in the Big 12 are are at the table working on a deal that would save the league, sources tell Orangebloods.com.
Still find that number hard to believe, that number would more then double what Texas typically receives in television revenue.
--Twitter fight between Chip Brown and Joe Schadd:
Chip Brown says Texas to stay in Big XII
Joe Schad: Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech heading to Pac-10
Pete Thamel from the NYT weighs in and says Texas on cusp of staying in Big XII
-- If Pac-10 can not get Texas and friends they will invite Utah and stop at 12:
Sources say if the Pac-10 is ultimately denied by the Big 12 South schools, Scott would likely extend an invitation to Utah and wrap up the Pac-10's expansion at 12.
-- Bonus!! A great read on the current state of NCAA sports by SB Nations Andrew Sharp.
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At this point I trust Chip Brown more than Joe Schad. Schad has basically leaked most of his information off of Brown since the report from Orangebloods.com first started, so I don’t know which source could tell him this. Plus Brown was right about Colorado and Nebraska, I don’t know who his source is, but they must be on the inside of the Big 12 in order to predict that part of the realignment insanity correctly.
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UNLV is going all the way this year!
Browns time is coming to an end...he's liable to milk and embellish to keep this story going and get page hits.
he’s been getting his info from the UT Athletic Department so I’m sure it’s true what he’s hearing.
My beef is that I think UT is trying to save face by telling him this, they don’t want the blame for the Big-12 collapse. They want to let A&M go to the SEC and say “hey, we did what we could, they’re the bad guy”.
My guess is that this goes through…if A&M decides to stay, maybe the Pac-10 decides to invite OU, OSU and TT anyway so there is no Big-12 to stay in. Surely those teams would be pretty pissed off at such a lopsided deal. As much as I’m sure all 13 people in Iowa would love to watch a game on the ISU sports network, it just won’t happen and they’ll get left in the dust.
If UT isn’t balking, and they do stay in the Big-12 lite, then the Pac-10 is going to take Utah, which could be a death blow to the BCS hopes of the MWC.
BevoTV is an issue. I know OU would like to have their games on local cable TV and keep the money, but the difference from a Missouri or and Oklahoma to what Texas will/could make is a lot.
Note that today Chip (He’s Gerbles for UofT) Brown had the Longhorn network making only $5million and not the $20 million on it’s own as was out a month ago.
The SEC allows ownership of TV, and Arkansas reported making $5million on their own, so I doubt the $5 million number for Texas.
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I'm really hoping
… for some scenario in which neither the Big 14/16 nor the Pac 14/16 happen (because I think >12-team conferences are silly), but the Big 12 blows up anyway, because I’ve kind of gotten attached to my hypothetical Big East football members + Big 12 North leftovers all-sports conference.
It wouldn't be a death blow to the MWC
Now that we have BSU, but if that’s the case, then it will still have us in practically the same position we were before BSU joined.
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UNLV is going all the way this year!
Yeah, it wouldn't be a deathblow, but wouldn't be good, either.
I really hope Utah doesn’t end up in the Pac-10. I completely understand why they would if given the chance, and why Utah fans would want that.
But it wouldn’t be good for the MWC, and as a BYU fan I don’t think it would be good for that rivalry. I’m sure they’d still play and the same feelings would be there, but we all know that BCS schools have an advantage when it comes to money and recruiting (which is exactly why Utah would go there). I think it would hurt the rivalry for the two teams to be on an unequal footing (I suppose you could say BYU already has disadvantages because of the honor code, etc., but having one of them in a BCS conference and one not would be far beyond that).
I wouldn't worry much if I were BYU
If the Big 12-lite happens, and Utah goes to the Pac 10, I’d bet a lot BYU gets an invite to the Big 12-lite in a year or two.
good point
Big XII should be smart and add BYU and Utah to get back to a 12 team league. Those two teams are stronger over the past five years then Nebraska and Colorado, plus the tv eyeballs are comparable for the two plus better teams.
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 14, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Utah would go Pac-10 to give them 12 teams and the Conf. Champ. Game.
The big 12 (10 or maybe 9) would love BYU, but it’s doubtful they would go back to 12 teams, rather stay at 9 or 10
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Yeah, I wouldn't worry if I knew BYU would land in a BCS conference one way or another.
But there are no guarantees, and I don’t know how much the Sunday thing would matter to various conferences (IMO they should find a way to work around it, because I think BYU would be a positive for any conference—they always draw well no matter where they go, etc.).
bevotv
Would have zero football games unless they play an fcs school
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jun 14, 2010 11:54 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
i sure hope texas a&m goes to the sec and that ruins the big 12 plans.
we really need for them to breakup and since tom osbourne said in his news conference that three conferences were talking to the big 12 teams and he was a little paranoid so the powers that be took themseleves to big ten country. only need one more domino to fall. the rest of the big 12 teams all have to be anxious about what will happen this week.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 14, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip Brown was just on ESPNRadio saying he expects a Big 12-lite tv package to be announced soon.
And that this tv network (as yet unnamed) stepped in and offered a contract that would save the conference. And that they won’t be adding any teams (I supposed that could change in the future, but it didn’t sound like it was at all on the table).
And my fears above regarding Utah ending up in the Pac-10 stand.
UH OH
Texas radio station reporting BYU and Air Force to be invited to replace Nebraska and Colorado!
If true… Utah likely to the Pac-10… Boise State becomes the new power of the Mountain West!
lol
The latest update:
We apologize, but it seems like someone had access to the account that shouldn’t have. 7 minutes ago via web
# 104.9 The Horn DID NOT report that Air Force and BYU would be two new Big12 teams. 9 minutes ago via web
by johnnycougar on Jun 14, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Leave it be
Alright other conferences…have your fun, just leave the MWC alone.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jun 14, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions
Leave the MWC alone!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jun 14, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
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