Boise State Invite To Mountain West Is Looming Next Week, We Are Serious This Time
by Jeremy Mauss on May 28, 2010 11:09 AM PDT
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PrintBoise State to the Mountain West looks to be coming a reality. The Mountain West presidents are meeting June 6h to June 8th in Jackson Hole, Wyoming with the expectation of expansion being on the table. Now there is more talk being exchanged between the Boise State AD and Mountain West officials:
The Mountain West presidents will meet June 6-8th in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. In preparation of the event, the mountain west has contacted local media here in Boise and is providing us with a coordinated effort to cover the meetings.
So, after years of speculation Boise State looks to be getting an invite to join the Mountain West this next week, because why else would they be invited to cover an event that this not for their current conference.
So, let me be the first to welcome Boise State to the Mountain West.
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Schedules
So, outside of the obvious changes to the conference schedules. How will that change the non-conference for both Utah (who plays BSU in 2011 through 2014) and BYU (2012 -2015)?
Good question
Those will be conference games so any MWC team that has Boise on the future schedule will need a new opponent. I think Wyoming has a semi regular series going with Boise State.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 28, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless,
The MWC follows the Pac-10 and does a round robin schedule with 9 conference games, then there is no need to add a non-con game.
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Oh I hope not.
I’ve said this before, in multiple forums, but I hope we stick to 8 conference games and we miss one team a year.
Everyone could have a guaranteed rival (or two) and then rotate the other games. I like having 4 OOC games, and it’s better for the league because it means fewer losses for the top teams and more opportunities to prove ourselves against the BCS (or get a guaranteed paycheck body bag game if you’re at the bottom of the league).
The 9-game conference schedule is especially tough on Air Force because they have to play Army and Navy every year, leaving them just one OOC game.
If anyone from the MWC offices are listening: stick to 8 conference games.
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by displacedute on May 28, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
please let this be true. imagine the espn coverage the mwc would get if we pulled the trigger first.
let the big ten respond to us. peace. craig thompson: if you do this you are a genius, if not ?!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^********.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995. My name is puzzy, puzzy galore. I must be in heaven. "Goldfinger" The man with the midas touch. To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day".
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 28, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
conference games
eight should be the key to ensure more wins for bowl games, plus air force wont go for it. Rivals could be kept as below
Utah/byu
Tcu/Boise
Csu/Wyo
Unm/afa
Sdsu/unlv
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 28, 2010 2:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly.
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by displacedute on May 28, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
UNM is not a AFA rival - and the falcons might go for 9 in a round robin
AF plays a cupcake every year for the September weekend when the parents of the freshmen come see how their kids are surviving. They do that in part to ensure a victory and selling tickets is easy with a captive audience. It needs to be a home game, but the folks would also pay to see a conference nobody – rotate SDSU and New Mexico. Those games don’t draw large crowds either.
AFA’s conference rivals are CSU and Wyoming. Plus we hate Utah and BYU, but those are too one-sided to be rivalries.
by AnotherFalconFirstDown on Jun 2, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, AFA is the only MWC school with a winning record against Utah.
Historically the other MWC schools are pretty poor at playing Utah:
AFA: 14-12-0 (.538)
BYU: 34-53-4 (.391)
CSU: 22-54-2 (.289)
UNM: 17-32-2 (.347)
UNLV: 2-13-0 (.133)
SDSU: 12-16-1 (.429)
TCU: 2-5-0 (.286)
UW: 31-50-1 (.388)
Of course, lately it’s been all Utah (except 2007), but historically the AFA-Utah game has been a toss-up.
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UNM is not AFA’s rival but CSU has the Border War and the UNM/AFA game each year is similar to UNLV/SDSU one that is not really a rival. Good points on a potential 9 game schedule since Navy and Army rotate home and home, so AFA most likely would schedule an FCS school or a lower WAC/Sun Belt team to come to town. The only problem is that AFA would never be able to schedule a game against a top tier BCS team since only a Pac-10, Colorado, or some Big XII team would not happen if AFA wants 6 home games.
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The MWC could just be fulfilling requests from the Boise media to cover the event.
I think the invite is happening though. Makes far too much sense.
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by Michael Rueckert on May 28, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
not sure
The quote from the article said the MWC contacted Boise media, which makes me seem like the invite will be happening during the meeting.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 28, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not a "done deal" yet
But I’m sure they have a very good idea whose going to vote “yes” and whose going to vote “no.”
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by Michael Rueckert on May 28, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions
boise probalby wants to make sure utah, tcu and byu will all stay with the mwc
no matter what happens else where. that would make sense to me.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995. My name is puzzy, puzzy galore. I must be in heaven. "Goldfinger" The man with the midas touch. To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day".
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 28, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Stuff
I, as one (who likes to think he is informed) bronco fan, Would be absolutely joyous if this happened. It can’t happen soon enough.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
Please-o-please-o-please!!!!
To who ever is in charge up there, please let this happen. NO I DON’T CARE IF SOUNDS LIKE BEGGING, BECAUSE IT IS.
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Just posted this at OBNUG
I’m not above begging.
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by JRig on May 28, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
craig thompson is in charge, mwc commissioner. however i think i read that 7 out of the 9 schools.....
have to agree. their is always one bozo in the crowd but i think the other 8 are smart enough to recognize this is the best move for our conference. so it is written, so it shall come to pass.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 28, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent...
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curious
when exactly would this kick in? i understand next year, but which sport would be affected first?
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fall 2011
Basically football would be the first affected, but the academic year of fall 2011 is when the switch would take place.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 30, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Solution to the scheduling problem.
The Mountain West should align itself with the Pac-10 and push to change the mandated 12-team rule for conference championship games to 10 teams. This would satisfy the Pac-10’s desire to hold a conference championship game and it would probably keep them from wanting to expand. The MWC then adds Boise State and takes advantage of the rule change by splitting up into the following divisions:
Mountain Division (“Gang of Five”)
Air Force
BYU
Colorado State
Utah
Wyoming
Western Division (everybody else)
Boise State
New Mexico
San Diego State
TCU
UNLV
Every team would play every other team in its division each year, while they would play four out of the five teams from the other division on a rotating basis. The two teams with the best records in their divisions would meet in the MWC Championship Game a week after the regular season ends. The “Gang of Five” would be happy because they would never miss playing against one another. It would give the MWC a true conference champion while only having to play an 8-game conference schedule. Each team would still be able to schedule 4 non-conference games. You would miss out playing one team from the other division once every five seasons. Of course, it could potentially not matter because you could theoretically face the team that you missed in the CCG. All problems would be resolved by this format. It would be our best bet for attaining AQ status.
Like it
It keeps rivals together and does not stack a division with BYU, Utah, and Boise which would have been very tough while giving TCU an easy path to the title. The Mountain division would be tougher but not completely out of whack, and it keeps the border War together as well as CSU vs. AFA.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 30, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Idea
I never thought of it that way.
Can I use this info for the MWC Expansion checkup this week? I’ll give you credit for the idea and the division choices.
Just respond to the comment and let me know if you’re ok with it please.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
That is a fine setup for football.
As long as we only use it for football, I agree. It’s horrible for travel in other sports like basketball, but it works for football because travel costs are pretty much the same no matter what (have to fly wherever you’re going except Utah/BYU and CSU/UW/AFA)
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My response.
Sure. I’m an idea man. I’m totally fine with it.
Sounds good.
It also sounds like a good topic to write about on Bleacher Report.
Really??
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 31, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
MWC + BSU = AQC
This merger (if it does happen) makes a lot of sense for the MWC and BSU. With Boise State I’d put the MWC ahead of the Big East and equal with the Pac 10 and ACC. The 8 game conference schedule would be a great way for them to set this up as previously mentioned allowing all the schools to schedule meaningful non-conference opponents. I can’t see the BSC shutting out the MWC with Boise State in the fold because it would certainly strengthen their hand for the automatic berth.
Yup its easy
The MWC would technically not qualify because of the bottom teams hold it back, but with a petition they should get in easily. Especially with the ACC below 6th in two of the three but will keep their spot because of their contract with the Orange Bowl.
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it just kills me
that the BCS boys always say the MWC is top heavy with Utah TCU an BYU… an that our bottom teams cant compete with the top teams in the BCS.. but why would that matter if the MWC top teams can beat the top teams in the BCS…Utah over Alabama… an look at our bottom teams… Wyoming has beat Ol MIss twice an Tennesse on their home coming 2 years ago.. an CSU over CU last year an i belive that UNLV beat Arizona State 2 years ago.. so my point is if our bottom half cant beat their bottom half then the MWC is just as good as the BCS conferences from top to bottom.. an if the MWC adds Boise State which they should this week..then the west will have 2 power conferences..
by CP.. on Jun 1, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
The bottom of all leagues are bad, but when the bottom of MWC and other have played its been in the MWC way.
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