BCS Releases Formula For Qualificaiton And Mountain West Does Not Make The Cut
The much anticipated formula was finally released today, but hold your joys Mountain West fans the league is in good shape but not currently in line for AQ status, but they are close. Of course it is the bottom of the league with New Mexico, San Diego State, and Colorado State dropping the league in the overall computer rankings. Looking at some formulas prior to today/s release it looked like the Mountain West was good to go if they kept up their current pace, but it looks to be on the shoulders of the bottom teams to pick up the pace.
So here are the rules for qualification, so I am warning you that an advil might be a good choice to take prior to reading:
The AQ evaluation includes the following for each conference: 1. the ranking of the top team in the final BCS Standings each year (if a conference does not place a team in the final BCS Standings, then its highest-ranked team is determined by the conference member that has the highest average ranking in the computer rankings used in the BCS Standings)
2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year, and
3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year, with adjustments to account for differences in the number of members of each conference.
A conference will become the seventh automatic qualifier if it finishes among the top six conferences in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 50 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.
Further, a conference will be eligible to apply to the Presidential Oversight Committee for an exemption if it finishes among the top six in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3,
OR
If it finishes among the top seven in either No. 1 or No. 2 and among the top five in the other and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.
No. 3 above, the "Top 25 Performance Rating," will be calculated as follows: Points will be awarded to the conferences based on their teams' finishes in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year. Points will be awarded as follows:
Teams finishing 1-6: 4 points for each team
Teams finishing 7-12: 3 points for each team
Teams finishing 13-18: 2 points for each team
Teams finishing 19-25: 1 point for each team
The point totals will be adjusted to account for the size of the conference, as follows:
Conference membership Adjustment
12 or more members: no adjustment
10 or 11 points: points increased by 12.5 percent
9 or fewer members: points increased by 25 percent
* The computations will be made according to the conference's membership on Dec. 4, 2011.
This clause is very important for the Mountain West to consider:
Further, a conference will be eligible to apply to the Presidential Oversight Committee for an exemption if it finishes among the top six in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3,
Here is a chart of how the league stands up in terms in two of the three categories:
Category (2)
Utah finished 6th in the final 2008 BCS poll and TCU finished 4th in the final 2009 BCS poll (the final BCS poll is released before bowl games). As of today, the MWC is third in category (2) (behind the Big 12 and SEC).
Category (3)
Here’s how category (3) looks as of today:
Top 25 Team Rankings (Weighted) MWC Big East Big 12 SEC ACC Big 10 Pac 10 2009 8.75 10 6 11 8 10.125 9 2008 11.25 5 14 11 4 10.125 6.75 Total 20 15 20 22 12 20.25 15.75
As you can see, the MWC easily has an aggregate score in category (3) above 50% of the score of the highest ranked conference (the SEC). In fact, the MWC’s score is high enough to rank it in a tie for third (with the Big 12).
The problem again is the bottom of the league which has multiple teams ranked 100 or below in the computer average. Those numbers were not an easy find, but some research will be done to bring forward a full comparison between all the leagues to see where the Mountain West stands out.
One very interesting note is that even with the addition of Boise State may not help:
The bad news for the MWC is that even if they kick out New Mexico and/or San Diego State and add Boise State, the conference still would not surpass the Big East in the overall ranking category (and thus would likely not finish in the top 6 of BCS conferences as required). This isn’t to say the MWC shouldn’t consider adding Boise State, but rather that adding BSU doesn’t guarantee the MWC of anything.
While adding Boise is a good move it may not even matter, because by kicking out a team in the 100 plus rankings does not help, adding Boise to give the league ten members would still not help. The waiver looks to be the way since the league is clearly in the 50% range of final rankings and with the highest rated team.
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craig thompson please give an invite to boise state university before this season even begins
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 23, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions
anybody got a e-mail address. i can send him my opinion on this.
like that would help but if he went before congress he must have some kind of pro-active stance.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 23, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
sorry i'm writing three in a row but if boise state were to get to the bcs ncg.(and possibly win it)
that would not help the mwc get aq bcs status?
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 23, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
Boise State would help, but I dunno if they put the MWC over the top.
Looks like they are pretty far behind in No. 2. The MWC needs good seasons from teams like Wyoming, UNLV, SDSU, CSU, UNM, etc.

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by Michael Rueckert on Apr 23, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
According to that, all we need to do is get category 2 down below 6 if follow right
We just have to be in the top 6 in each category, right?
Just a quick question, all of the four years average right? I mean if UNLV, SDSU and Colorado State all had good years this year and the Big 3 went on as normal, could we possibly jump the Big East in that second category?
UNLV is going all the way this year!
yes
It’s a 4 yr average so the bottom teams need to move up, but there is the chance to appeal if they are in top 6 in two sections. Boise would help but not enough to pass the big 10
by Jeremy Mauss on Apr 23, 2010 5:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh sorry, thought that said Big East
They wouldn’t be, but if Wyoming went 8-4, SDSU went 7-5, UNLV Colorado St. and New Mexico all went 6-6, we could possibly jump the Big 10 with expansion.
Boise St. still helps in terms of getting closer to jumping the Big Ten, which is exactly why the MWC still should because it still helps us alot, This is just a guesstimation, but I think adding Boise St. would move us to around 52-54 in category 2, therefore making all that closer and if Boise St. does really well the next 2 years, they would move us even closer.
I guess what it all comes down to is that we can’t have a team have a record of 5-8 or lower to finish out the evaluation period if we want to jump the Big Ten. That means doing really well in non-conference, these first few weeks of college football are going to mean a lot.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
Not that easy. Most conferences are separated by 2-3. We are down 8, and I'm expecting a big year for the Big 10.
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by Michael Rueckert on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
What about Pac-10?
They’re only one more ahead of Big Ten and with Oregon losing Jeremiah Masoli and USC supposed to receive penalties for recruiting violations, we could see the Pac-10 maybe go down 3 or 4 and the MWC rise up with expansion enough to maybe pass the Pac-10, not the Big Ten.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
Actually as long as we keep prong 1 over #5 we can rest with Prong 2 at #7
Especially if the ACC remain #8 in Prong 1.
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It came from SI.com
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by Michael Rueckert on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there any way that adding more programs with winning records over the selection time window would help (Houston and their ilk) or is it still all about the UNLVs and SDSU’s getting out of the gutter?
I really haven't thought about how adding Houston and Fresno St. would help
That possibly could help a lot depending on where they finished in the BCS rankings.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
ummm
Houston would help ONLY IF they are added by this summer since they are probably around Air Force’s ranking, but as one of the linked articles I read said that even if Boise is added and SDSU or UNM dropped it still would not make a dent.
But, if the MWC is in the top 3 of the other 2 categories I really dont see how they would be denied with the waiver option, especially since the computer ranking is only 8 spots away. The MWC at the top is fine, but I think SDSU will improve and so will Wyoming especially over the last year of Joe Glenn. Air Force has a shot to take BYU’s place as the 3rd top 25 team, and if BYU can over achieve and either get in top 25 or hang around that will get them closer to the Big 10, but the bottom teams need to get better quickly.
Dropping SDSU helps more than adding Bosie State
Adding Boise State would significantly improve the perception of the conference as a whole and mitigate against future BCS alignment trouble, say Utah going to the PAC 10.
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Numbers
MWC Average now: 58.61
Boise State’s value: 7.13 (7.75 in 2008, 6.5 in 2009)
SDSU’s value: 102.5 (110.5 in 2008, 94.5 in 2009)
MWC+BSU: 53.46
MWC-SDSU: 53.12
MWC+BSU-SDSU: 48.01 and #5.
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good stuff
But I doubt SDSU will get kicked out. They have been with all these teams in the old WAC for a long time (minus TCU and UNLV). But I think SDSU should be able to improve and get a rating in the mid 70’s and get close to 6 wins. That helps, but we need all teams to get above 90 if possible.
by Jeremy Mauss on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
San Diego State will not get kicked out
They are in a recruiting hot bed, huge TV market and are very good at basketball.
I think we need to add Boise St. in order to get closer, but we also need teams such as SDSU, UNM, Colorado State and UNLV to have good seasons. That means we are going to need a lot of non-conference success so that the top 4 teams (Utah, TCU, BYU, Boise St.) all can keep having their success. So what it comes down to is that if we are going to jump the Big Ten or Pac-10, we are going to need to add Boise St. and have a lot of non-conference success.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
Oh and also...
Boise State would raise the MWC to 24.75 in Prong 3, 100%. (including the fact that the 1/4 bonus is reduced to a 1/8 bonus with a 10th member)
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if you look at the big ten standings last year 6 of their teams had losing records. (noone as bad as new mexico though)
that means we had the same amount of winning teams with two less teams. i think when i left this morning utah had four players chosen in the draft. i only saw virginia tech of the acc (of all acc teams) have more than that or maybe it’s ws even. it was a rebuilding year too. the rest of the conference did not fair too well except tcu had two high picks in hughes and washington. yes indeed we need boise state.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions

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