Big 10 Moves Into Warp Speed With Expansion Talks
So much for the turtles pace of 12-18 month time frame for the Big 10 to consider expansion. The Big 10 is meeting today in Washington as is expected to make a (likely) decision on whether to expand or not. Expansion has been this offseason's meme with articles talking about the death of the Big XII, creation of the 16 team super conferences, death of the Mountain West, Utah heading to the Pac-10, MWC candidates, various Big East teams heading to the Big 10, and many others.
The expected answer looks to be an overwhelming yes regarding the expansion today:
High-ranking Big Ten representatives will meet Sunday in Washington to discuss expansion. The timing and location of the session make sense considering the Association of American Universities has its semi-annual meetings there through Tuesday and all 11 Big Ten schools are AAU members.
If the conference can emerge from the meetings with a mandate to expand, Commissioner Jim Delany could take a substantial step next week at the annual Bowl Championship Series meetings outside Phoenix.As laid out in the Big Ten's Dec. 15 statement, Delany would "notify" the commissioners of the affected conferences before "engaging in formal expansion discussions with other institutions."
The conferences to be notified is obviously the Big East first with Pitt, Rutgers, West Virginia, and Syracuse being mentioned, and then second is the Big XII since they want Texas. The biggest fish is still Texas and then Notre Dame even though the Irish are saying they are not interested, but once Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick is shown how much more money the Domers will make being in the Big 10 could change some things.
Big 10 expansion is all about the mighty dollar where Notre Dame could increase its annual television revenue from roughly $15 million to $22 million because of the Big 10 Network. Here is the top teams in terms of value are as followed below using a few factors via SB Nation's Big 10 blog Rivalry Esq:
9. The University of Missouri (6.75 Average)
8. The University of Kansas (6.00 Average)
7. Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (5.5 Average)
6. Syracuse University (5.25 Average)
5. University of Pittsburgh (5 Average)
4. University of Nebraska (4.75 Average)
3. Texas A&M University (3.5 Average)
T-1. University of Notre Dame (1.75 Average)
T-1. University of Texas (1.75 Average)
The amont of teams is the issue because it can be either one team or as many as five:
"I don't think 16 is scaring anyone off, as long as you can find (five) that are a good enough fit," said one source who has been consulted during the exploratory phase. "They're looking long-term, across the horizon. What gives them the best shot at keeping value at a high level?"
If the Big 10 really wants Texas they will most likely have to bring in the red-headed step child Texas A&M because the Texas legislative would have a say in the move, and the Aggies must be taken with Texas. That decision could force the Big 10 to say no to Texas or create a16 team super-conference. That would leave three teams left and the Big 10 will still make a push for Notre Dame and then round out the next few choices in Missouri and a couple of Big East teams.
The Big East could be on the fast track to losing their BCS status if they lose two teams and the worst case scenario would be folding football and having the league back to being a basketball conference. The left over teams might options for the ACC and a remote possibility to join the SEC.
The affects on the Mountain West would be if any Big XII teams leave to join the Big 10, because if Missouri leaves BYU would be a really good choice to keep the league at 12 and keep the North/South divisions. Now, if Texas goes by itself then TCU would be a good fit for the same reason BYU would be if Missouri left. With the possibility of the Big 10 going for three or more teams with Texas, Texas A&M, and Missouri then the Big XII would be in trouble and they could take on BYU, TCU, and then the third team would be interesting and take too long to speculate at this time.
My strong opinion is that the Mountain West must be proactive and invite Boise State to have ten teams and be a league that is stronger then the Big East and at least on par with the ACC and Pac-10 in terms of the top teams. The Mountain West may not need to invite Boise State to gain AQ status for the BCS, but it would make the conference stronger with four legit top 25 teams each year, and a few others who will be bowl eligible.
Currently the Big 10 holds the cards in expansion talks as they look to make the first move, and if the Pac-10 is not paying attention they better perk up and get on the ball especially since their options are only minuscule in compared to what the Big 10 is looking to do.
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This is not good
Craig Thompson needs to hurry up and expand before it is too late.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
I'm actually indifferent
I just want Utah to the Pac-10 and was trying to help you find a silver lining. So I was being a bit facetious in my response.
The 16 team super duper conference
will shake up D-1/FBS football as we know it, if it happens. It’s been long known, that the big boys want to play in a smaller pond, and not share their money. This is nothing new. BUT going to say 4 or 5 large conferences, and then those conferences could break away from the NCAA, and the landscape would be a drastic change.
Personally, I don’t think a super-conference will work. For fans to be excited enough to buy tickets there has to be rivalries. And for a good rival, you have to be close enough to drive there, and close enough to not like them. 16 teams didn’t work for the WAC. Even splitting up the Big 8 rival of OU-Nebraska has not been good for either program. But…while I don’t think it will work…if there is enough money on the table, I’m sure some one will try it.
16 team conferences would end the MWC as we know it. It would possibly finish the Big 12 depending oh how it gets carved up.
Side question: The Big 10 meeting is to decide to expand right, not WHO should be invited, that would the next step correct? Is that how I’m reading this meeting in Washington?
Yes
The meeting yesterday was to decide on expansion. But the BCS meetings are this week and the Big 10 will notify the conferences of the schools they wish to talk to. The meeting seemed like a formality.
by Jeremy Mauss on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
when you say the meeting was in washington you mean washington d.c?
that would be an interesting place to hold a big ten hearing because don’t you think their just might be meetings with the justice department and some senators, (including orrin hatch) on how this would come about it.. if this is the case i think the mwc aq bcs conf. status might get approval anyway no matter how the expansion goes thru.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 19, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
true
but the CO/C is bigger then the Big 10 that is why
by Jeremy Mauss on Apr 19, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Breaking away from the NCAA
Not so sure the football teams can do that, because it would screw up most importantly the NCAA tournament if there was a football division outside of the NCAA and it differed then the football league. That is why they wont break away, but rather have giant leagues like the Big East hoops.
this should get interesting. btw, today is exactly 8 weeks after the ncaa met on the usc violations
should here something about that this week too.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 19, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions

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