Texas To The Big 10 Could Start The Downfall Of The Mountain West As We Know It
Expansion rumors are both fun during the off season as well as exhausting in trying to keep up with all the angles and rumors that are flying around. The latest is Texas to the Big 10. Whaaat! According to the Lawrence Journal-World this is more then the speculative rumor that had Nevada, Boise State, and Fresno State to the Mountain West:
A source with ties to the Big Ten said that while most people's attention has been trained on the conference stealing Missouri, the Big Ten has engaged in "preliminary exchanges" with a much bigger fish from the Big 12.
"There have been preliminary exchanges between the Big Ten and Texas," the source told the Journal-World on Wednesday. "People will deny that, but it's accurate."
Again with a source but the line there have been preliminary exchanges between the Big Ten and Texas is quite intriguing and not too far fetched that Texas would jump to the Big 10. When the old SWC broke up Texas was close to joining the Pac-10. Today's landscape is different with billions of dollars on the line in television deals. This makes sense to the Big 10 and especially the Big 10 Network to land the most coveted school in the land -- yes more coveted then Notre Dame -- and all the eyeballs in Texas.
The money is a key issue to say Texas would say no because the Big 10 splits television money equally while the Big XII does not and in the 2007-2008 year Texas was first in the country in total revenue at $120,288,370. Even with the shared tv money and a bump in revenue from more people watching the Big 10 Network, Texas may not jump.
Travel could be a concern but with those things called airplanes Texas can get to any Big 10 city within a three hour flight and that is not much different then traveling to Nebraska, Kansas, or Missouri. Texas meets the academic standards and is the flagship university of the state. Two things of this could be that the Big 10 is looking for a single team or trying to get Texas first and then either Texas A&M or other Big XII school to form a 14 or 16 team super conference.
Now onto how this move could mean the end of the Mountain West as we know it.
To make this simple lets just assume Texas goes to the Big 10, then Colorado and Utah go to the Pac-10. The Mountain West would be left with eight teams and the Big XII down to ten. The Big XII would then take TCU to replace Texas plus this would reunite the Horned Frogs with some of their former SWC brethren. Then BYU would be plucked up also by the Big XII to replace Colorado and would be a good fit since they were in the running over a decade ago when the Big Eight was going to the Big XII.
Left in the Mountain West would be six teams -- one less to be FBS eligible -- with Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming, and UNLV. The easiest step would be to have the WAC and decimated Mountain West merge to form a 15 team league. However, this would be similar to the 16 team WAC that failed in the early 90's, and would WAC commissioner Karl Benson welcome these teams back after they bolted. Also, what would happen with the Mountain West Sports Network, because the MWC would have only six teams and would not be in an position to have the nine WAC members join their league. That television venture may fold, or CBS College Sports and the Mtn may try to just switch to a WAC network (this would be messy).
The new WAC/MWC would be 15 teams and not good for scheduling in any sports with the only upside is that they could have a title game. A solution to get the league to 14 teams would be to boot Louisiana Tech to the Sun Belt which would be a better fit at least travel wise, but they would not like that at all.
Texas could be the start of it all for the Mountain West to be non-existent or very weak while leaving the MWC and the WAC scrambling for members.
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This offseason should be a fun one
Potential topics of discussion
-MWC expansion
-Pac-10 Expansion
-Big 10 Expansion
-Big 12 Expansion
Wow
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by Michael Rueckert on Feb 11, 2010 7:59 PM PST reply actions
I've been all over this on the internet
but, a couple of points. There is absolutely no reason for any conference to have more than 12 teams. 12 gets ya a Football Championship game. After that, the 13th is just another cut of the pie. They really don’t bring much unless they are in a great TV market, which would add value to a TV deal in excess of the cut the school takes out.
If the Big 12 lost UT (which I don’t think would happen cause I think A&M, Tech and Baylor supporters would block it in the Texas Legislature), or possibly Missouri and Colorado, their first replacement would not be TCU. TCU wouldn’t even be on the list. Why? TCU brings nothing to the Big 12 TV wise, as D/FW would already be considered Big 12 with just Tech, Baylor and A&M, plus OU and Okie St fans in the area. The Big 12 WOULD first look at Arkansas and LSU first, which leaves the MWC only losing Utah.
I could however see the Big 12 going after BYU and New Mexico or even UNLV if they can’t get Arkansas or LSU. All bring needed TV markets. (though both New Mexico and UNLV would have to upgrade their stadiums and increase seating, as the Big 12 has a minium size requirement for football and basketball arenas)
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IF Texas goes
TCU would be the best choice to keep the north/south alignment together.
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 11, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Arkansas to the south.
Also I’m not sure the Big 12 is crazy about the North/south Split. too much power from the South schools recruiting Texas. Not sure how else they would split it.
But I don’t think UT will go. Not that they wouldn’t want to, but I don’t think it gets through the Texas Legislature.
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I dont think they will either
But this was a fun piece to write and speculate
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 11, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm fascinated by the business
and how the strings are connected. For example, the Big 10 expansion could some how affect say, New Mexico joining the Big 12, or possibly the entire fate of the Mtn West Conference.
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true
While I think this piece is on the extreme end, but you never really know.
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 12, 2010 5:21 AM PST up reply actions
oh it is...
just using an extreme example, to make a point oh how it’s all connected.
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Texas would be foolish to leave
They have it made in the Big 12 right now. Even in a down Big 12 year, they went to the BCS championship game with a strong enough schedule to pull them in.
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by Michael Rueckert on Feb 11, 2010 8:06 PM PST reply actions
and sadly
that has nothing to do with anything. It’s about the bucks. Joining the Big 10 would give UT a $10 million dollar pay increase.
A blogger and lawyer named “”http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/" target="new">Frank the Tank" has written a ton of stuff about expansion mostly from the Big 10/11 view. Lots of reading there, but it’s pretty interesting.
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Its all money
And I assume the speculation is money, because if somehow the Big 10 can make Texas more money then they would move.
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 11, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
The MWC may become a basketball conference if they lose enough teams
They can invite Utah State and other basketball schools.
I don’t see Boise State bolting from the WAC if the MWC loses TCU, Utah and BYU.
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by Michael Rueckert on Feb 11, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions
over on the Boise St site
their fans said they would. The would still see the MWC as an upgrade even with out Utah, and with out BYU. Kinda surprised me, but even their fans would like to see more meat to their football schedule, that San Jose St, Idaho, Utah St, New Mexico St, just don’t bring.
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Boise
Even without Utah and BYU the MWC is an upgrade. I think their invite will be coming this summer.
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 11, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Their invite will likely come before any moves happen
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by Michael Rueckert on Feb 11, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
It has to doesn't it.
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what about the football teams then??
They still need a place to play they are not going to drop the sport.
by Jeremy Mauss on Feb 11, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mean a basketball conference like the West Coast Conference
A basketball strong league, but weaker football.
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by Michael Rueckert on Feb 11, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
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