Boise State's Defense Too Much for TCU as they win Fiesta Bowl 17-10
by Jeremy Mauss on Jan 4, 2010 9:09 PM PST
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The outcome was close as I expected, but what i did not expect was that Boise's defense was able to play as well as they did; especially by their defensive backs. Andy Dalton did not really help himself out with three picks and that floater at the end of the game on that final drive where TCU started at their own one and was looking good.
This win nulls any AP title talk that TCU might have been received. Boise State impressed me very much, most specifically their defensive backfield that was able to tip multiple passes and the second biggest play was the early pick for a touchdown. However, that fake punt was the biggest play of the game, or perhaps the dropped pass that would have tied the game for TCU.
Also, BSU was able to stop Jerry Hughes from making too many plays he did have that fumble recovery but that was it. TCU also did not run the ball as well as they normally do as the play calling was sketchy as TCU opted to throw down field more instead of using Jeremy Kerley in space on quick slants or bubble screens.
The TCU defense did do a solid job by only allowing 10 points (the other seven came off an interception return) but they did give up chunks of yards. The biggest culprit in the TCU loss was that QB Andy Dalton had his worst game of the year and was making bad throws all evening.
More to come tomorrow in detail about this game.
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Well I was way off
I thought TCU would win fairly big because I questioned Boise’s defense.
Both teams are very good. TCU certainly had their chances
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by Michael Rueckert on Jan 4, 2010 10:36 PM PST reply actions
Pretty embarassing loss
TCU did not come wanting to win. BSU brought everything they had and it showed. Dalton couldn’t make a pass but when he did the WR’s dropped them. This really was frustrating to watch because that is not the same TCU team that dominated BYU and Utah. The defensive front 7 for TCU are crazy good but because they are so good the secondary of TCU didn’t have to be great to win games during the season. LOTS of missed assignments and too many receivers left wide open… not typical of TCU because the front 7 made the opposing O was always so frustrated by the front 7. TCU played the first half like they thought they would roll with ease. I freaking hate BSU and Utah but with time these 2 can win big games.
FYI, Daltons last pass is exactly why a QB should NEVER throw across the field like that. He has a weak arm and he put it on display tonight.
Thank you TCU, now we have to put up with more “WAC is better than MWC” just because BSU beat you. Way to lay an egg guys.
Incredibly Embarassing Loss
“…just because BSU beat you”? Did you even watch the f’ing game?
Yes they beat us. But BSU (especially given a month to prepare) is an incredibly talented team. While we never looked dominant, we DID drop the tying touchdown just before the terminal interception. In spite of our myriad mistakes, we were running right with them (unfortunately, right BEHIND them) with a chance to tie it until there was under a minute left after starting at our 1-yard-line.
They beat us because BSU executed better than we did. Apparently, they were better-prepared and better-coached. I’m sorry, Coach Patterson, and am immensely happy to have you at TCU as long as you’ll stay, but that’s what I saw.
I’ve not watched the game again (I did record it, but I’m too sick about it to watch it yet), but all I can figure is we had a horrible case of “deer-in-the-headlights”-itis.
Zipper, are you really worried about “we’re better than you” from the WAC? Any Mountain West team could beat any WAC team, except for BSU.
And would BYU like a shot at BSU?
Fear the Frog!
Absolutely
With the way BYU and Utah played in their bowls they would have dominated BSU or TCU. Shoot with how bad both teams played last night Wyoming could have beat either team. That was not the same TCU team that dominated the regular season. The crappy part is that is exactly how I expected BSU to play… their offense unable to really move the ball against a good D. Too bad the secondary doesn’t compliment the front 7 of TCU’s D.
I don’t think anyone in their right mind would actually say the WAC is better than the MWC but then again the WAC is loaded with people from the heartlands of white trash America. A good look at the BSU cheerleaders, fans, and their punter are exactly what I’m talking about. They all looked like they drove down to the game in their trailer homes.
Let’s be honest, TCU lost the game more than BSU won it. More specifically, TCU’s offense lost the game more than BSU won it. And to get even more specific, Dalton lost the game more than BSU won it. He really came out flat and didn’t do much to help his team win.
TCU fans classy, a lot of Ute and BYU fans, not so much...
TCU- Tough, hard fought game. Just like the Poinsettia, could have gone either way. Your defense is fast and tough. Dalton is tough as nails, too. You think Max Hall or the Utes “talented freshman quarterback” would have come back from Kyle Wilson heat seeking missile hit with only missing one play? Pretty much all of my family members are either Utes or Cougars. I know whereof I speak.
Boise State would beat BYU or Utah by at least 10 points this year, probably more. Any one who doesn’t admit that is a bitter homer with no sense of objectivity at all. We are all homers, but at least keep it in bounds.
Oh, invite BSU to your conference so we can all have an automatic bid, eh?
For whatever it's worth
This BSU fan isn’t about to claim that the WAC is better than the MWC simply because of the Fiesta Bowl. That would be an ignorant and uneducated proclamation.
What this game proved was, that on this particular night, BSU was the better team. If these two played again next week or next year the outcome my be reversed just as it was from last year to this.
TCU has an incredible team. They have athletes on both sides of the football as well as special teams, just like BSU and they have one of the to coaching staffs in all of college football, just like BSU.
You can claim TCU lost this football game rather than BSU winning it all you would like but doing so is, as stated above, ignorant on your part. I look forward to more spirited games between BSU and the MWC in the coming years as we have games scheduled starting in a couple of years with both Utah and BYU. And, for the record, the MWC’s overall bowl record tells the story all by itself.
Good luck to all your teams next season.
Pull Your Head Out, Zippy
TCU looked the way TCU looked because they were playing sixth-ranked BSU. BSU looked the way BSU looked because they were playing fourth-ranked TCU. It’s has to do with the level of the competition.
Fourteenth-ranked BYU performed well against 18th-ranked Oregon State. Congratulations on your victory, BYU. Twenty-fourth-ranked Utah performed well against unranked California. Congratulations on your victory, Utah. Thank you both for making the MWC’s bowl stats look good, but do you see a trend, Zippy?
Neither BYU nor Utah would have stood a chance against either BSU or TCU in the Fiesta Bowl on Monday night. You’re comparing apples to oranges. TCU already destroyed both BYU in Provo, and Utah in Fort Worth (that was a great game!)
That’s why BYU and Utah were in the Las Vegas Bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl. BSU wouldn’t have broken a sweat Monday night if they had played either one.
Fear the Frog!
new nickname for Dalton
“the red haired retard”
you failed your conference and your team big time Dalton
Good game
I know TCU put up a stinker but they still only lost by 7 to a very good Boise team. I am not all that down on them and don’t think anyone with common sense will think that the WAC is better then the MWC. You can claim Boise should have won by 21 but blew their chances too. It just came down to Andy Dalton making a few poor decisions with the football and his receivers not coming down with it when they had chances.
Bring back Fum's Song!
Boise State.
Truth is, the Broncos own the MWC. 13-1. Don’t get me wrong. They have all been close games. But when i here you say that Utah or BYU could have beating them that night is straight up DUMb talk. Oh, so now that TCU lost, shame on them for losing to Boise. Oregon got the same treatment. “Yea, but they lost to BSU.”. This is exactly what the BCS wanted. They rooted for Boise knowing if they did beat TCU, gene wojciechowski from espn could write what he wrote. Of course if TCU would have won, Then everyone could say, ‘they played BSU they don’t deserve a share of the Championship’. TCU showed up. This was the same team the whole nation was talking about. The same team that ran threw the MWC. The game plan was perfect. Even Dalton himself said that the D made him do what he did.Yea they had a dropped pass for a TD. But Boise missed a field goal, And a bad pass by Kellen to Young that would have been a sure TD. Boise to the MWC would be great. But i promise, if that happens, they would represent their side of the conference every year in the MWC championship game. TCU didn’t lose that game, Boise won it.
Your spelling is terrible, but several of your points are valid. However assuming BSU would win the MWC every year is ridiculous (Expansion to twelve teams needed for divisions and a championship game won’t come in this expansion series). Dalton’s desire to make deep sideline throws, Boise’s fake punt and the ridiculously early abandonment of the running game are what cost TCU the game.
Boise not getting credit for beating a great TCU team borders on criminal, but when Boise starts playing in the MWC in a couple of years, don’t expect similar undefeated runs. It’ll be one great team tougher for any of the future big 4 to go undefeated.
BSU In The MWC...
…will absolutely make it tougher to go undefeated, which is the point of having a good conference. And in the short run, that may well eliminate the MWC from NC competition, because we’re just too close in terms of talent and it will just be too difficult to go undefeated (maybe). But, in the long run, the MWC will become better and will come to be seen as one of the toughest conferences in Division I, or whatever the BCS idiots call it these days.
Having a team as good as BSU to compete against will improve the current Big 3 and future Big 4 of the MWC, again, in the long run. Recruiting will, sooner or later, take off as athletes and the NCAA realize the quality of the conference. BSU may, in fact, come in and win the conference at first (kinda like TCU did in 2005), but not without a heck of a fight.
And, as far as BSU “owning” the MWC, wasn’t it just last year around this time that the TCU defense was the one that came to play and held the Broncos to their final field goal, instead of a TD, and then intercepted one of BSU’s “tricky” laterals to win the Poinsettia Bowl and give BSU its only defeat of the year? (I guess you did owe us one.) We could go on until next college football season about particular plays (the dropped TD at the goal line that would have tied the game with under a minute left, etc.) that would have changed the game.
My point is the game was as close as a game can get. And the result was a BSU victory. BSU deserves congratulations and respect, not servility, from the MWC for a hard-fought game in which you defeated the MWC champion. As a sign of that respect, we’d like BSU to join the MWC and become one of us. BSU would no longer have the stigma of going undefeated in a conference with piss-poor competition (kinda like the current MWC, but much worse). The new MWC would have four competitive programs, comparable to the “Big 6” of BCS fame (infamy).
In the long run, it’s a win-win proposition. Now we just have to convince the folks who actually make that decision and extend the real invitation.
Fear the Frog!
Please let it happen....
I drove through Utah on the way back from the Fiesta on January 5th. You should have heard the Utes and Cougars saying that TCU “didn’t play that way against them, and they would have beat either team that night….” Unbelievable. BSU would absolutely be honored to be invited. No Bronco I know is happy about being in the WAC. We would love to step up and have more big games each year. Great game, Horned Frogs. It would sure be fun to do it every year.
Yup...
That was incredibly frustrating. Moore did an excellent job of getting rid of the ball and his O-line really came to play. Yet another disappointment.
Fear the Frog!
That Vaughnzipper guy is an idiot
BYU fans don’t have the privilege of criticizing TCU’s performance. I don’t know how much fans in Provo realize just how much better BSU and TCU are than their beloved cougars. TCU makes your team look like a high school JV team with a 1-10 record. Even Utah is leaps and bounds ahead of BYU as a program. This was Utah’s rebuilding year and BYU peak year with its talent and senior QB and STILL took OT to beat Utah. Hey Cougar fans, when you go 12-0 and make a BCS bowl, then you can sit at the big boy table and act like you would have done better against a top 5 team in a big time game. Until then, have fun being good but never elite like your peers and have fun in Vegas, year after year after year after… you get it.
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